Some cursory thoughts: 02-17-2000
1. The 8th H placement of Hekate would likely accent her crone-guardian role at “the gates of life” (both birth and death—including those births and deaths of the cycles of changes in behavior.) Hekate here might also be a kind of “psychological counselor” as her inner wisdom would tap into core issues for others; that “knowing” of Hekate would intuit the pain (and defensive games) of others—and have the resources for guiding/leading them through.
2. Since Poseidon and Neptune are both receptive energies, I think much would depend on aspects to the conjunction. Neptune picks up on an empathetic level, Poseidon on a more mental level; add these to that inner “take” of Hekate and you have a powerful “sensing.”
A problem can occur because Neptune takes IT ALL in and can have trouble ranking or discriminating; it can become confused, anxious or insecure...about (Poseidon) what is true, and the conjunction can thus “know” much more than it can articulate. In the 8th, there is also the matter of “right use;” it carries the responsibility of the power of knowledge—and of ensuring that what is “known” isn’t a vehicle for power over others nor a lever to attempt to force change. The “crash and burn” cycle of the 8th must here apply to one’s reliance on “knowing;” it must slay and regenerate the beliefs....
With the Hekate-Neptune-Poseidon, dreams can be potent, instructive and relevatory, and I love the image of the “compassionate crone” with the clarity of Poseidon as a path. These are all right hemisphere (of the brain) factors and speak to the strength of holistic perception. But again, one wants to see the aspects to know how comforted, augmented or challenged this way of seeing the world stands.
I would think “the source” of the knowing would not be clear; does information surface from empathy or from the clear-seeing of Poseidon? In the 8th, does it come from an unearthly realm? Where there would be retrogrades, this sourcing might be all the more clouded.
The generation with the Neptune-Poseidon has so much to offer; their Truth is so based in acceptance and compassion. But this is also the generation that has had to work to understand “victimization” (and to know so much more about “saviors”) --and certainly we have learned much about that thru the (Poseidon) media. Some in this generation have feared BEING victimized or martyred FOR their truth; others have had the illusions (and pretenses) of Neptune obscure or glamorize their contact with religion, metaphysics, and their own essential truths or principles. Sometimes they have not allowed themselves to know or own what they “knew.” You’d think that Hekate would be there to steer or lead a person through that obstacle course.
When you think of Poseidon as education or mentation, you can see how the “gut instincts” of Neptune both enhance and detract. Hekate can lend the sense that one “has been there before”—not in a jaded way, but in a mature-wise way. Perhaps some of this wisdom turns Neptune (the higher octave of Venus’ love) to a new level of (Poseidon) spirit.
There is a dependency in Neptune, and an absence of barriers; I think this indicates that the ego dissolves into and relies upon Spirit—and there is a great need and urge to feel “at one” with the highest aims and conceptions. But this is tricky work; the maya of Neptune is not easily pierced. We can deceive ourselves at Neptune—even about such important things as (Poseidon) our principles, our metaphysics, our vision of life and beyond.
For metaphors, one might take Hekate for “the darkness,” Poseidon for “light” and Neptune for “water” and let those elements arrange and rearrange to give ineffable moments of meaning. With Neptune, it can be difficult to know which is truly a light, and which is a refraction, shadow or reflection.
(Well, I see I have absorbed the Neptune-Poseidon in trying to talk about it! Sorry. Hope some of these thoughts spur your intuition so this all adds something to your sense of it.) m
1. Toro-Hades: This is rough on the physical strength; some exertion results in decline; muscles can deteriorate; there may be a need to fight to prevent going downhill.
2. Toro\Pluto: Sense of fighting against overwhelming odds; to become aggressive from threats to control; show of
anger or strength when others seem manipulative or as though they have the upper hand.
3. Atlantis-Askalaphus (both retrograde:) Issues of respect for privacy while one is ill; concern about medical ethics; one too easily believes a sense of doom about symptoms or medical condition/prognosis.
4. Toro\Siva: The will or ability to “fight” (or work for strength) is periodic or episodic; to combat a downward spiral.
5. Odysseus-Atlantis (both rx:) Negative expectancy or some secrecy about travel; travel by or over water; estrangement connected to betrayal.
6. Sphinx, Rx\Asclepius: Unanswered questions regarding diagnosis or medical status.
7. Kronos-Odysseus (both Rx:) Issues about air travel; VIPs or government leaders away from home; laws that affect immigrants; concern because an expert (including a physician) is or has been “away;” one travels to consult specialists
8. House-Sappho: Events at the home of a friend
9. Cupido-A\Askalaphus, Rx: Health conditions affect the complexion or “outer” layer; the appearance affected by medical status.
10. Nostalgia-Sappho: To reminisce with a friend; to think of shared happy times; to remember things by identifying like objects, people or situations.
11. House/Askalaphus, Rx: Connection with hospitals or other residences for sick persons.
12. Klotho/Hades: Lousy start; beginning of a decline; preliminary investigation. Good to remember that just because things start badly that doesn’t mean they’ll continue that way.
13. Minerva\Dionysius = Askalaphus, Rx: Palliative medications; time to use health consequences as a strategy in dealing with addictions or unhealthy preoccupations.
14. Kronos\Sappho: “Friends in high places;” friendship, ties or feelings with the boss, an expert, or a specialist; attention to whether friends recognize one’s competency; attention to the associates of those who claim leadership roles.
15. Sphinx-Iris (both Rx:) To wonder if there’s hope; instances when “not knowing” toys with one’s hopes.
------- Of course, as usual, as always...there’s more to say about each of these, and much more goin’ on than I’ve mentioned, but maybe these quick blurbs will give you some validation of what you or others you know are experiencing these days.
1. Dionysius - Demeter (both Rx:) Strong preoccupation with meals, food, nutrition; food addictions (where food is a substitute for honest emotions or a compensation for hurts;) instances of seeing the impact of the addictive syndrome (denial, immaturity, disregard for consequences, etc) in parent-child relationships; potential for “wine with meals” situations and biochemical effects where foods (especially sugars) are converted to alcohol.
2. Panacea-Astraea: To work to improve or repair problems that have been ongoing for some time; some “solutions” require that one recognize that constant effort will be needed—you can’t just do something and have that do the trick; to work to fix something while keeping options open; moments when “seeing” the problem is an important step in knowing what to do about it.
3. Arachne-Industria: Networking as part of the profession; effort given to making connections; work efforts where “one thing leads to the next;” goal pursuit demands attention to detail and to intricacy; to “get involved” because of ambitions or as part of the career; professional aptitude for “weaving” many elements into a whole.
4. Admetus\Panacea: Solutions are dependent on others (or on some kind of testing) or the arrival of raw materials; improvements are made on a few things; to see that “making it better” demands patience and persistance.
5. Bacchus-Uranus-Asclepius: New, progressive medications and treatments.
6. Bacchus-Uranus: Emphasis on the way that technology can be addictive— and denial of the consequences of that; seeing how “addiction” (whether to a substance or a behavior pattern) maintains a rush of adrenaline (and stress;) insights about what freedom means in terms of addiction; to use emotional distancing or disconnection to manage and deny emotions (one’s own or those of others;) awareness of the role that drugs and alcohol play in erratic, impulsive or abrupt reactivity; pondering the potential of drugs (or medications) in fostering change; contact with friends or support groups to deal with addiction.
7. Dionysius\Orpheus: Depressive tendency associated with drugs/alcohol; use of music to work out emotions; to “get high” on lyrics or melodies!
8. Urania-Orpheus\Sphinx, Rx: While astrologers can be asked questions about death or loss, there will also be instances where a person feels lost or as though there is much they don’t know because the mind is swayed by regrets, awareness of human mortality, and the processing of some kind of sorrow.
9. Pythia\Pluto: The “meaning” of very intense experiences is temporarily misunderstood; care needs to be
given to the motives for intuitive sharing; one wrestles with interpreting the message of highly complex people and situations—they may be right about the wrong things (and vice versa) and it will take time to fully comprehend the impact and intention of what is happening; it is thus hard to decide what one can and can’t “control” now—and whether one should try or acquiesce. ----- As usual, these are abbreviated; they will apply to only some people; please extrapolate on the suggestions.